God spoke to me during my senior year of high school, and I would never be confident in my own logic and reasoning again. In college, he met with me in a much more dynamic way. From that day on, I would never again doubt His existence, character, or power. It changed me. I was more secure. More free. More giving. More confident. It was not the faith of my parents that convinced me of God's existence, or the testimony of scripture, or the evidence of creation, or the complexities of science. It was the undeniable contact with my creator. It is hard to prove that any of my experiences were genuine. They were, but how could I convince a skeptic? As a child, I remember being stirred in my spirit, like an astronaut staring at something beautiful and overwhelming in space. The feeling would happen at random moments and would draw me into simple worship, even when I was just riding in a car or lying in bed. From the moment of my conversion (age six) I was a fanatic. I read my Bible every night. I made my own tracts and carried those and a box of Bibles through my neighborhood. By third grade, I had the read the Bible from cover to cover three times in three different translations. By the time I graduated high school, I had read it twelve times. But all of that reading, though beneficial for facts and stories, only led to arrogance. I used knowledge like a weapon. I complained. I boasted. I argued. It wasn't until the Holy Spirit actually spoke to me that I realized I was in a relationship with a being that wanted to interact. This is basically what he said to me: You will never be an effective Christian until you learn to love me. As I continued to grow, I struggled with many of the issues I listed on the previous Skeptic Blogs, but more than anything else, I struggled with the challenge that God gave me. How could I love what I could not see or understand? I prayed constantly about it. I refused to sing or talk about God's love until He proved himself. In February of 1995, he answered my prayers in a way that left me trembling and forever changed. Ask me about it sometime. I have had many stories since, many of which will creep into these blogs, but for now, this will have to do. However, I do have one logical argument, though I hate to use it. There are smart people on every side of every argument, making truth seem unreachable. Thank God for the Holy Spirit! But if you don't have much personal experience with God, I can offer you at least one logical assurance. The law of cause and effect demands that something must pre-exist everything in order for anything to exist. Simply stated: nothing comes from nothing. It doesn’t matter how far back you go in the chain of cause and effect, there must be an ultimate cause that has no beginning. We may not understand a creature like that, but we don’t need to understand it. We just need to accept the necessity of it. If logic demands that something eternal exists, whether it is a tiny germ floating on a space crystal, or a conscious alien being, scientists should be looking for that eternal “thing” that started it all. Thankfully, we don’t have to look far. A spirit that claims to match this exact description has been revealing itself to men and women for as long as history has been recorded. Isaiah, a Jewish prophet, claimed to speak for a being that is "the high and lofty one, inhabiting eternity.” When Moses asked for God’s name, he was told, “I am,” which seems to speak of a creature in an eternal present. Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I am,” designating a contrast between a time-based creature and an eternal creature (was versus am). There is also quite a bit in scripture talking about how God’s power and character never change, another quality of someone living in an eternal present. God’s ability to speak of future events with exact times and places also suggests his ability to see the future as if it were just sitting there in front of him. God is known to challenge men with statements like, “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?” Decent question. My answer would be: “Uh . . . in Doc Brown’s time mach---” NOTE: This sentence would be cut short by a bolt of lightning. d In the historical record of God working with people (AKA the Bible), we see his creative power in the miraculous. There is a difference between being a manipulator of matter, and a creator of matter. Walking on water, calming storms, causing fish to obey, or healing a human body can all be replicated by any spiritual power. But to turn a boy’s lunch into a meal for 5,000 men requires creative power. To give life to a dead man requires creative power. These powers were on display in Jesus, who claimed to live as an expression of God. I am definitely intrigued by these arguments for the existence of God, but my personal experience with God is what puts everything to rest. Bottom line: I believe in him because I know him. Why do you believe?
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AMEN! - me too! To me, its like being a parent or grandparent - unless you have a child or grandchild you can't hear from someone else what it is. Feels like [insert any description] doesn't come close to the reality of KNOWING your child, your grandchild, GOD.
John 10 - Parable of the Good Shepherd
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers."
This figure of speech Jesus spoke to them, but they did not understand what those things were which He had been saying to them.
So Jesus said to them again, "Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.”
”He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. He flees because he is a hired hand and is not concerned about the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.”
”For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father."
This passage of scripture has become really meaningful to me in the last 8 months, because I understand it on such a personal level.
How do you recognize someone's voice? It takes the time and effort of building relationship with a person. You listen. You listen a lot, actually. You become familiar with inflections. And it's so much fun when you realize you can even hear a smile in the tone of their voice over the phone. In my life, hearing the voice of someone I love brings me comfort, joy, and assurance.
I had to shut up to listen, but once I did, He spoke.
I believe in Him, because I know His voice.
Why do I believe in God?
Batman and Harry Chapin.
When I was a kid, once I learned to read, I learned to love reading from two things: comic books and my big fat illustrated children's bible that my aunt the nun gave me.
Truth be told, I was more taken with the comics. In the insane world I lived in, I had more need of them. They showed me a world where the good guys were good and the bad guys were bad and it was easy to tell the difference, and most importantly, the bad guys always lost. I believed in justice. I believed in the Justice League.
I also believed in all those silly oaths that superheroes used to swear. All those mottoes they recited. "With great power comes great responsibility." "To fight for Truth, justice and the American Way." "I will shine my light into the darkness, for dark things cannot stand the light." "In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight..."
Because of the comic book heroes, I came to believe in a world where the good guys stand up and fight against evil. I'm funny that way.
I've been boring Wendy all day nattering on about Harry Chapin, so I'll just say go Google him. He had a profound influence on my life, and the end result is that being a Christian is where I ended up.
God uses all kinds of weird stuff.
When I was a child, I lived in a world that I needed protection from. I didn't know it. I lived my entire childhood in complete oblivion, playing Barbie dolls and happy.
One thing that I always knew though, I just KNEW, that God loved me and was with me wherever I was. I knew it from at least when I was as young as 4 years old. He told me once, when I was in 5th grade, that He would be my friend when no one else would, and that He loved me. He told me that. I have no proof of His voice, but I heard it. I felt Him.
In retrospect, and, from what people have told me that were around in my childhood/teenage years, I know that God was my protective "bubble" around me that caused this naive happiness. There is no other explanation, other than that He put rose colored glasses on me and led my way through those years. I heard Him here and there, very clearly, throughout those years. I'm thinking the times I heard Him were when my happy world and my real world touched. When I almost understood what was going on around me, He made sure that I knew He was there, He loved me. I belonged to Him.
Why wasn't I supposed to know my real world, like so many innocent children have to? I don't know.
I believe because He showed me Himself. He told me He'd be there and He never left me.
Mrs Frank, I would like to just call you on the telephone and avoid the public scrutiny of my "opinion" of the answers to your questions but I believe with all my heart that God can use your questions and my answers to His glory.
All your life people have asked me(ok,now you know this is your mom writing) with all the junk in you life why is Laurie so special? (meaning cheerful and at peace with life) As recent as a couple weeks age when I was visiting your sons' Sunday School class their teacher asked me "what was your secret in raising Laurie? You must have been a great mom? I laughed, then sobered up and said "absolutely not!" Her Father and I did everything we could to mess her up. (not on purpose :()
But this I KNOW - Before you were born (while I was carrying you in my womb) I asked the Lord to not let you be born if you weren't going to KNOW Him. I meant it!!You truly gave your life to Jesus at age 4. I began to pray fervently and faithfully that God would protect your mind and blind your eyes so that you would not see the things going on around you that would weaken your faith in your Heavenly Father. To answer your question "why wasn't I supposed to know my real world?" You knew reality from age 4. You knew Jesus. Real life is the life that is lived in fully trusting Him and not being moved by circumstances along the way.
You didn't completely escape the "real world" as you put it. Remember Tour A? There were many other times when that world was very real and close.
Finally, I was looking through the Memory Album you gave me the night before you got married and in was a letter I wrote to you in 5th grade that said "Just remember you do have a Best Friend that will never betray you. The Lord Jesus!
So what is my point? As a Mom that has been there - to all of you who are still going there, pray for your children, encourage them, send them notes....If God can use a donkey to speak for Him, He can use us.
I don't open my Bible and point to verses and demand that He speak to me, but I do believe that His written work is true and I can claim His promises as my own.
Ok, mom, you should probably just create a name since we all know your "anonymous" identity, now :)
I'm so glad you jumped on here. It's so wonderful to see confirmations. I had no clue you prayed those things before I was born.
Now, how about before you were pregnant? Why do you believe in God? It's always interesting to the offspring, to know why their parents chose God, verses, well, any other god.
Why do I believe in God? - As far back as I can remember, I have always believed in God. When I was a child I loved when the Missionaries would come and tell us about the incredible things that God was doing on the mission field. I never doubted His power and love for His people. I was amazed by it. I believed everything I was taught about Him but never really understood it all until I was much MUCH older. I gave my life to Him when I was 8 years old but I took it back when I was 14. He never left me, I could always sense His presence and protection and was always crying out to Him to forgive me for the choices I was making that I KNEW were wrong. I lived with guilt and fear and uncertainty until I was pregnant with you. After being barren for the first five years of marriage and thinking He [God] was punishing me for what I did before I was married, He TOLD me in that voice that nobody else can hear or explain that He forgave me the first time I asked - and then He gave me you. That was huge.
It wasn't until I was around 45 years old that I began to understand that my desire to learn and do everything I was being taught was wrong, but that I just needed to believe it and speak it. (Romans 5 & 6)
I love this "Gospel of Frank" blog because it is really challenging all the things I thought I knew. It is freeing for me to know that I have so much to learn.
Paul speaks in Ephesians 3:8 of the unfathomable riches of Christ.....I love the sound of that.
Now I have an interesting thing to say on this topic lately. I do believe in God. I have seen and done things that cannot be explained with anything other than God causing it. I have witnessed healings, seen God provide in the most ridiculous circumstances, and witnessed the change in lives that would not be welcome without the holy spirit's guidance. That being said, I wonder sometimes: do I REALLY believe in God. I mean in action and in faith. Of course we all struggle with this in one form or another. I can relate a lot to the statement that God made to you about not loving him and being an ineffective Christian. I sometimes do extremely stupid things and choices and wonder why? Why do I do things that I hate, and know that I shouldn't. I sound like paul in Romans haha.
In all seriousness, I do seek and pray that I could love God more and more, as even to the point of my own death, in it's truthful and final meaning, so as to give God a usable vessel. As weird as this will sound: I have had people say things to encourage me from time to time after preaching or teaching that makes me feel ashamed. They give and encouraging word or thanks and I just feel silly. I am not worthy of anyone's praise for any reason. I am a sinful wretch who can barely figure out what he's doing from one day to the next. Paradoxically, I am also a priest according to the scripture, a vessel for the Holy Spirit and living temple. I sure wish that we truly had a grasp on this in modern Christianity. I think it would mean a world of change for nearly every single person I know. Maybe I'm ranting about something we already know, but I'm trying to be "frank". I don't live like I love God most of the time, and I get away with it (in the eyes of my fellow man anyway). That's scary and honest, please don't judge me too much! I don't mean that I'm free to do what I want without consequence or reprimand in the eyes of God. I mean Who around us is really keeping us truly accountable to the hard and challenging things that Jesus commanded us? After all, what is "belief" in God? Is it a sentence, a profession? It must be transcendent above simplicity of thought and words and become the core of every action taken by those who claim they believe. And in that sense I do not love God enough. That I WILL ask prayer for! haha. Thanks for reading my rant, I hope there's something useful in it!
I apologize in advance if anyone feels the fervent need to pray for my soul lol.
Mrs. Frank, you are a very lucky woman to have a mom like that! I hadn't read this blog before today and I just wanted to tell you I would give my right arm to have a mom who prayed - much less pray for me.
I hope my kids look back and feel blessed in the way that I am raising them.
Scott, I will pray for you to find what you're hungering for. I have hungered like that in the past, and it is always the start of something "big" spiritually. I'm excited for you! I know God will answer. What father lets his kids go hungry?
"I believe in him because I know him."
That is the best reason of all, I think. Unfortunately, however, I do not think I can point to that as the reason for my belief. Whenever God speaks to me, no matter how certain I am that it is him, I know that what I hear, feel, etc. is still being passed through the filter of my mind (of course, that is true for every person, but not being aware of it results in no stumbling block). Therefore, I always have some doubt that I am actually hearing from him, knowing that my mind is capable of simulating any experience.
I tend to fall on logical reasons for God's existence instead of my own experience, which I know to be highly fallible. However, I am not satisfied with this state of affairs.
I would like to know how other Christians excuse the mind's capabilities to trick us. "Just knowing" is not a credible answer to this question since it assumes the very thing being questioned.
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